Congressman Anthony Weiner On the Secret Documents
WABC Radio: The John Batchelor & Paul Alexander Show
Excerpt of Interview as Aired June 23, 2001
J4JP Release - July 3, 2001
John: We're on with Anthony Weiner and I want to help everybody go to the internet right now. The facts are voluminous; you can find them at jonathanpollard.org The facts are overwhelming. So while you're listening, you can go to your computer - jonathanpollard.org - and it will come right to you.
Congressman Weiner, I would like for you to tell our audience more about this secret document - the Weinberger document - that apparently was at the center of the sentencing of Jonathan Pollard, that few people have read. Can you tell us about that?
Weiner: Well, yes. I can tell you what I can tell you that's not secret. And that is that essentially the government made an agreement with Jonathan Pollard not to ask for a life sentence; and despite the Justice Department making that commitment, at the eleventh hour and 59th minute the Department of Defense came forward with a memo from Caspar Weinberger. The unclassified part of it begins by saying, "in the year of the spy" - this was when the Walker case had gone on, a real terrible case of espionage if not treason - 'in the year of the spy the Pollard case is the worst and we in the Department of Defense believe he should serve a life sentence.'
That was in contradiction to the plea bargain that had been worked out - that Jonathan had co-operated, had shown he was willing to co-operate - that now-famous memo has been kept from the most-recent defense team.
I don't know if this is something to be proud of, but I have now seen more of the documents in the Pollard case than any other elected official; and I can tell you, without revealing what is in the Weinberger memo, that
it's not the dramatic information that some of us feared was in there.
Paul: Have you read the memo?
Weiner: I have.
And I can tell you that nothing in that information is any longer helpful to anyone. For example, if you were to read the Weinberger memo today you would learn very little about our nation's secrets because, frankly,
it's very dated information. Secondly, there's nothing in the Weinberger memo that speaks to Jonathan's spying for anyone else - which is one of the things that many of our opponents have thrown up as a canard: that he spied for China or for whomever else - that's not in there. It is entirely about the information about our ability to collect data on other countries. And you'll forgive me if I'm being general, but I'm prohibited...
John: But Congressman, if that's the case, then why was Jonathan Pollard's current lawyer, Eliot Lauer, not allowed access to this document? He was turned away in Norma Holloway Johnson's court.
There is no good reason. There is no good reason. The argument made by the court was that there's nothing in this information that's exculpatory. I happen to believe that that's not true because, if the information is completely benign then
there's no reason not to reveal it to the attorneys; and if it is damaging then that's even more reason to reveal it to the attorneys.
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